Dolphins AFC East +300

[Avocado33]

I have been looking at this division a bit. Seems like this may be the single best value on board across division winners.

It think the Jets being overhyped has eaten into Dolphins equity more so than Bills. Bills +120 feels about right

Patriots fwiw I think will be a little better than people realize, in the mix for a wild card spot most likely.


I think division could play out:

Dolphins
Bills
Patriots
Jets

 

[raiders72]

Dolphins are loaded but Tua holds them back. Tua's gaudy numbers last year were a product of the talent around him.

 

[Greenbacks]

When Tua plays they are a tough team.
I like it
Good luck

 

[Greenbacks]

Dolphins are loaded but Tua holds them back. Tua's gaudy numbers last year were a product of the talent around him.

Lol

 

[Avocado33]

Dolphins are loaded but Tua holds them back. Tua's gaudy numbers last year were a product of the talent around him.

I think he's OK. Definitely good enough to win in a division with flawed teams

Dolphins have best roster IMO

 

[chrishansen]

Browns to win North. Division will beat the shit out each other.

Same as the East. At 300 fish worth a shot

10 wins he’ll may 9 can tie/win division off tie breaker. Either division

Bills Bengals will get 1-2 tougher games off schedules last year. Little help but not much. Off sos

 

[Avocado33]

Browns to win North. Division will beat the shit out each other.

Same as the East. At 300 fish worth a shot

10 wins he’ll may 9 can tie/win division off tie breaker. Either division

Bills Bengals will get 1-2 tougher games off schedules last year. Little help but not much. Off sos

Nah Bengals will run away with it

 

[chrishansen]

Nah Bengals will run away with it

Must be bengals homer

 

[Avocado33]

Must be bengals homer

Yes but I’m objective

That’s why I think they’re only going 15-2 and not 17-0

 

[chrishansen]

About half the playoff teams will be new teams. It happens almost every year. Too much parity. Bengals lost to pit bal Clv last year. Probably do so again. I’d argue Clv and pit are better teams this year and bal maybe. Either way division is tuff. They will beat up on each other. Hate Watson but he stabilizes Clv into a better team. Pit is pretty young and always a tuff out.

Can’t bet with your emotions. North gets a good draw out conference weak teams. Bengals draw kc and buff. Rest of division avoids them. That’s two big games. Big emotions and possibly one game difference in a division title.

 

[HacheMan]

Miami's offense was awesome last year before Tua went down

Then they lost a few without him

He came back they immediately started winning again I believe

But then after some major hits I don't think he was the same again

 

[peanuts]

Tua has a 1-4 record versus the Bills in his career.

 

[chrishansen]

Miami's offense was awesome last year before Tua went down

Then they lost a few without him

He came back they immediately started winning again I believe

But then after some major hits I don't think he was the same again

Then Skylar Thompson shredded the bills in playoffs as a rookie

 

[Avocado33]

About half the playoff teams will be new teams. It happens almost every year. Too much parity. Bengals lost to pit bal Clv last year. Probably do so again. I’d argue Clv and pit are better teams this year and bal maybe. Either way division is tuff. They will beat up on each other. Hate Watson but he stabilizes Clv into a better team. Pit is pretty young and always a tuff out.

Can’t bet with your emotions. North gets a good draw out conference weak teams. Bengals draw kc and buff. Rest of division avoids them. That’s two big games. Big emotions and possibly one game difference in a division title.

Tough division with no push overs but Bengals still have the best team pretty clearly in that division

Opportunity to get off to a good start, Burrow finally fully healthy going in to the season

Question will be how their defense gels, if they see any drop off in the secondary

Offense is absolutely loaded, best in NFL

Toughest game will be @SF

 

[Mr_Mark]

at +300, I like it. GL

 

[brendanjack]

Tua is a concussion magnet just a matter of time. I like the guy but his head is like a grapefruit. Steve young on steroids . Nothing worse than waiting for your memory to reboot . Guys a can of corn .

 

[Michelangelo]

I think Miami is gonna finish last in a very tough division.

The Jets are gonna challenge Buffalo for the Div championship. The Jets have a better D and a better running game than Buffalo. Now they have Aaron Rogers. I'm a Josh Allen fan and I really can't stand diva Rogers but the guy is one of the best.

Then you've got the Pats. Billy B is still the best coach in the game. Don't ever begin to think that the game has passed him by. He needs at least some talent. And he needs his coordinators. He can't do it all by himself. The offensive coordinator position was a joke last year. Bill O'Brien will get this offense humming again. Mac Jones is a much better QB than what you saw last year. If they can land Hopkins (which I think they will) they will be adding him and Shuster and Gsecki as receiving weapons. The Pats running game with Rhamondre Stevenson is as good as anyone's in the division. And last year the special teams were putrid. Heck, they allowed half (3) of the NFL's kickoff return TDs. Joe Judge will be stepping in to help last year's rookie special team's coach, Cam Achord. The Pats also drafted both a fg, kickoff kicker and a punter. Expect huge special teams improvement.

That leaves Miami led by a guy, Tua, who can't stay on the field. The Fins are 5-9 all time without Tua. How can you count on a winning season when you can't count on your QB?

As a Pats fan it's gonna be fun. These teams are gonna beat each other up. I love it.

 

[Avocado33]

I think Miami is gonna finish last in a very tough division.

The Jets are gonna challenge Buffalo for the Div championship. The Jets have a better D and a better running game than Buffalo. Now they have Aaron Rogers. I'm a Josh Allen fan and I really can't stand diva Rogers but the guy is one of the best.

Then you've got the Pats. Billy B is still the best coach in the game. Don't ever begin to think that the game has passed him by. He needs at least some talent. And he needs his coordinators. He can't do it all by himself. The offensive coordinator position was a joke last year. Bill O'Brien will get this offense humming again. Mac Jones is a much better QB than what you saw last year. If they can land Hopkins (which I think they will) they will be adding him and Shuster and Gsecki as receiving weapons. The Pats running game with Rhamondre Stevenson is as good as anyone's in the division. And last year the special teams were putrid. Heck, they allowed half (3) of the NFL's kickoff return TDs. Joe Judge will be stepping in to help last year's rookie special team's coach, Cam Achord. The Pats also drafted both a fg, kickoff kicker and a punter. Expect huge special teams improvement.

That leaves Miami led by a guy, Tua, who can't stay on the field. How can you count on a winning season when you can't count on your QB?

As a Pats fan it's gonna be fun. These teams are gonna beat each other up. I love it.

Jets are going to be like last year’s Broncos, very similar make up

Pats will be plucky

But Bills/Dolphins are better than them both

I think Miami can survive without Tua for a few games

Who knows who will get the injury bug the most this year

 

[Michelangelo]

Jets are going to be like last year’s Broncos, very similar make up

Pats will be plucky

But Bills/Dolphins are better than them both

I think Miami can survive without Tua for a few games

Who knows who will get the injury bug the most this year

Jets are last year's Broncos?

Naw. The Jets have a much better D than Denver for starters.

On the offensive side of the ball it's not even close. Denver got an over the hill Russell Wilson (one of the dumbest trades in NFL history). The Jets got a guy, Rogers, who was always better than Russell Wilson still capable of playing at a high level. Their running game is also far superior to Denver's. And I like their coach too.

The Jets will be tough. The Broncos? Average team at the very best. Likely the worst team in the AFC West.

 

[Avocado33]

Jets are last year's Broncos?

Naw. The Jets have a much better D than Denver for starters.

On the offensive side of the ball it's not even close. Denver got an over the hill Russell Wilson (one of the dumbest trades in NFL history). The Jets got a guy, Rogers, who was always better than Russell Wilson still capable of playing at a high level. Their running game is also far superior to Denver's. And I like their coach too.

The Jets will be tough. The Broncos? Average team at the very best. Likely the worst team in the AFC West.

Is the Jets defense better? Lot of variance with young overachieving defense, very easily could regress this season

Jets don't exactly have great weapons. Breece Hall as your starting back and below average receivers. Broncos weapons were bad too.

Rodgers will be better than Wilson was last year, but that's not saying much.

Rodgers is definitely over the hill though. I know he didn't have much help from his WR's, but he was still pretty bad. Couldn't crack 300 yards a single time with 6 games against college-level passing defense.

Jets look like a 7-10 kind of team